<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Sungwook,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Thanks for the explanation and example images. I have printed various molecular surfaces and they are slow to print on filament printers because of the very intricate surface shape, sometimes taking days for larger (15 cm models). It makes sense that removing the unseen interior surface bubbles will speed this up.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Tom</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Sungwook Woo <<a href="mailto:sungwook.woo@gmail.com" class="">sungwook.woo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Tom,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Looks like that does the trick. Thanks a lot!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In 3D printing, one could fill the entire internal space with printing material, </div><div class="">but typically one just fills the empty space only with some kind of lattice framework,</div><div class="">while printing multiple layers of material for the walls of the outer surface to ensure durability.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If there are structural features *inside*, it seems that there is no way for 3D model slicing softwares to distinguish this reliably (at least I couldn't find one), and they create multiple layers of 'walls' inside as well, ending up wasting time and material. To illustrate the difference, I attach a screenshot of a slicing software (called Ultimaker Cura) where I show a cross section of two copies of the same protein model, one with the trick applied (left) and one without it (right).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Sungwook</div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 3:14 AM Tom Goddard <<a href="mailto:goddard@sonic.net" class="">goddard@sonic.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Hi Sungwook,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> You can avoid the internal surface bubbles in ChimeraX using the surface command "visiblePatches 1" option,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>open 7exf</div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>surface #1 visiblePatches 1</div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>save 7exf_chain_A.stl model #1.2</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don't see how this saves material when making a 3D print since the print will be solid if there are no interior bubbles. But I agree it will print faster on a filament printer since the toolpaths will be simpler since there are no holes to dodge.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>Tom</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Sungwook Woo via ChimeraX-users <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" target="_blank" class="">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've been using UCSF Chimera and recently encountered ChimeraX -- I really like the modern look and feel!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One feature I cannot find in the X version, though, is editing the attributes of an <span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);white-space:pre-wrap" class="">MSMS surface model,</span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);white-space:pre-wrap" class="">where I was able to disable (make 'false') the 'show disjoint surfaces' setting, in the original version.</span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><font color="#ffffff" style="--darkreader-inline-color:#ffffff;" class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Most of the time dealing with models I don't need it, but sometimes I like to 3D print molecular models to really get a 'grip' on the models, and that feature of not showing disjoint surfaces has been useful to remove internal 'bubbles', which </span></font>I learned about through this posting: <a href="https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2009-May/003903.html" target="_blank" class="">https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2009-May/003903.html</a> . If internal bubbles are not removed, they<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> waste printing material and increase printing time.</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is there any way to disable showing disjoint surfaces, or otherwise achieve a similar goal in the X version?</div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Sungwook</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div>
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