<div dir="ltr">Thank you very much Elaine ! 😇 <br><div>Indeed I confirm that the default engine built-in Chimera-X coupled with the MD smoothing script works much better for trajectory visualization and movie making. </div><div><br></div><div>I also understood that the source of the lags in my case was related to the initial PDB where I saved also the molecules of solvent (water) which significantly increased size of each snapshot etc.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW would it be worth to try to make a MD movie based on the visualization of protein surface (in the MD trajectory) instead of its cartoon representation? Would the smooth script work for this case?</div><div>Yours sincerely 😘</div><div>Enrico</div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mar 10 gen 2023 alle ore 18:15 Elaine Meng <<a href="mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu">meng@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
You do not have to use the plugin from the toolshed to record a movie of your trajectory. You can just use the built-in trajectory viewing options described below, and in that case you would also not need to save another file after smoothing.<br>
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Without the plugin: If you open the trajectory in ChimeraX it will automatically show a slider interface with a red "record" button. If the trajectory is in multi-model PDB format, you can open it with the "open" command and the "coordset true" option to tell ChimeraX that it is a trajectory (instead of showing all the models at once). Other trajectory formats are also possible:<br>
<<a href="https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/open.html#trajectory" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/open.html#trajectory</a>><br>
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<<a href="https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/open.html#slider" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/open.html#slider</a>><br>
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Clicking the red record button on the trajectory slider plays it from the current position to the end, and then saves it as a movie. Or instead of using the graphical interface, to record a movie you can use a ChimeraX command script with the "coordset" command to play back the trajectory (and "movie" commands to start recording and stop recording and save a movie file).<br>
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We talked about recording a trajectory yesterday. That one was from a morph, but once you open your trajectory, it is the same thing:<br>
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I hope this helps,<br>
Elaine<br>
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Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. <br>
UCSF Chimera(X) team<br>
Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry<br>
University of California, San Francisco<br>
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> On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:25 AM, Enrico Martinez via ChimeraX-users <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" target="_blank">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Dear Eric,<br>
> Thank you very much for your kind suggestions!<br>
> Actually my goal is to record the movie from the MD trajectory. Could we do it without the MD plugin e.g. using some built-in command of the Chimera-X assuming that I am dealing with a very long trajectory computed by AMBER and saved in multi-pdb format..<br>
> <br>
> BTW I tried to follow the recommendations of Elaine: loading initial trajectory into the ChimeraX as multi-model pdb (it takes 30 minutes! :-) ) then applying the smooth script, saving it as a new PDB and then loading it directly to the MD viewer. So I tried to change the number of averaged snapshots in the script (either 2 or 25) and noticed that in both cases the new PDB was slightly bigger than the original trajectory (20 gb vs 14 gb). However, the results were almost the same regardless of the parameter used in the smooth script. <br>
> Many thanks in advance<br>
> Yours with thanks<br>
> Enrico<br>
> <br>
> Il giorno lun 9 gen 2023 alle ore 19:32 Eric Pettersen <<a href="mailto:pett@cgl.ucsf.edu" target="_blank">pett@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> ha scritto:<br>
> Hi Enrico,<br>
> Looking at the MD viewer code, I can see that it holds its own copy of the coordinates instead of storing them with the structure and therefore the script can't find them to do the smoothing. The structure effectively has a single coordinate set that is updated manually by the MD Viewer. Also, MD Viewer only reads/shows heavy atoms (i.e. it ignores hydrogens).<br>
> When you read your structure directly into ChimeraX, did you use the "coordsets true" option?<br>
> <br>
> --Eric<br>
> <br>
> Eric Pettersen<br>
> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab<br>
> <br>
>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:00 AM, Enrico Martinez via ChimeraX-users <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" target="_blank">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Thank you very much Elaine!<br>
>> In fact I've already tried this script directly with the Molecular Dynamics Viewer GUI but I did not notice any differences in the smoothness. <br>
>> <br>
>> I have also tried to load the ensemble of multi-pdb snapshots directly in the Chimera-X in order that I could apply the python script on it, BUT it seems that Chimera-X could not handle a big number of the snapshot in the case of a long trajectory...<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Il giorno sab 7 gen 2023 alle ore 00:58 Elaine Meng <<a href="mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu" target="_blank">meng@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> ha scritto:<br>
>> Hello,<br>
>> There is a python script available from our website for ChimeraX trajectory smoothing, see this recent post:<br>
>> <br>
>> <<a href="https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimerax-users/2023-January/004741.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimerax-users/2023-January/004741.html</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> You can play trajectories with the ChimeraX "coordset" command. However, I don't know how this script would work together with the Molecular Dynamics Viewer GUI plugin (developed by 3rd party and available from the Toolshed). <br>
>> <br>
>> If it does not work directly, you may need to first run the python script, then save the smoothed trajectory as multimodel PDB with "save" command option "allCoordsets true"...<br>
>> <<a href="https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/save.html#pdb" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/save.html#pdb</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> ... then use Molecular Dynamics Viewer to view the trajectory from the new PDB you just saved.<br>
>> <br>
>> I hope this helps,<br>
>> Elaine<br>
>> -----<br>
>> Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. <br>
>> UCSF Chimera(X) team<br>
>> Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry<br>
>> University of California, San Francisco<br>
>> <br>
>> > On Jan 6, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Enrico Martinez via ChimeraX-users <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" target="_blank">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > <br>
>> > Dear Chimera-X users!<br>
>> > I am trying to make a movie using MD trajectory (in multi-model pdb file) by means of the Molecular Dynamics Viewer (v 1.2). is it possible to introduce smooth effects on the snapshots transition in the same way like it could be done via V*D ?<br>
>> > Many thanks in advance<br>
>> > Cheers<br>
>> > Enrico<br>
>> <br>
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