[chimerax-users] Next/previous buttons?

[Oliver Clarke]

Hi Tom,

It is increasingly not niche at least for single particle cryo-EM folks - pretty much all of us deal with the issue of comparing many classes, or sets of classes, in the context of one or more atomic models. Anything that facilitates that is useful to most of us in the field these days in my experience. Believe me if I had the faintest idea how to add it in I would do so! :)

Cheers
Oli

> On Feb 2, 2022, at 2:34 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard at sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> Got it.  Never knew about that "skip in previous/next" row in the Chimera daily build.  Seems really like a niche feature but I understand it is useful to you.  This is the kind of feature that is so special purpose that it would be good candidate for someone who really benefits from it to implement it as a ChimeraX plugin.
> 
> 	Tom
> 
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Oliver Clarke via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users at cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users at cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tom, right - in recent-ish nightly builds of Chimera Eric added another row - "skip in previous/next" which allows one to control which models are excluded from the sequence. 
>> 
>> So in the attached picture, models 3&4 would be excluded from the sequence - #3 would always be displayed, while #4 would always be hidden. This is very useful to be able to do on the fly, when one is comparing lots of different models & 3D classes that are aligned to one another.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Oli
>> 
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>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 2:11 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard at sonic.net <mailto:goddard at sonic.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Oliver,
>>> 
>>>   You are right the ChimeraX mseries command does not allow you to easily remove or add models to the sequence if models that the slider displays.  Could you explain how that works in Chimera?  I guess you are referring to the optional row of "Displayed model" checkbuttons below the command line in Chimera that can be shown using command-line preferences and has Next and Previous buttons.  But I don't understand how that lets you change which models you cycle through -- doesn't it always cycle through all models in model number order?  Eric implemented that Chimera feature and maybe I just don't understand how it works.
>>> 
>>> 	Tom
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 8:43 AM, Oliver Clarke via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users at cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users at cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've played with this a bit now Tom and I still think the Chimera implementation is superior for some use cases, as it is more flexible - it is easy to remove or add volumes or models to the series "on the fly", whereas in ChimeraX this needs to be done when creating the series (unless I am missing something which is entirely possible!). 
>>>> 
>>>> It would be great to have at some point an implementation of a "default" model/volume series as exists in Chimera, where one can click next/prev or have an option to temporarily add/remove each model from the series.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Oli
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:30 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard at sonic.net <mailto:goddard at sonic.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Oli,
>>>>> 
>>>>>   The "mseries slider" command in ChimeraX provides a related capability to flip through several models using a slider, for example,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 	mseries slider #1-5,7-12
>>>>> 
>>>>> allows displaying one of the specified models without effecting the display of models that are not listed in the command.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 	https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/mseries.html <https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/mseries.html>
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Tom
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2021, at 9:42 AM, Oliver Clarke via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users at cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users at cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Next/Previous buttons in original Chimera, combined with the capacity to lock the display status of one model (using the "Skip") checkboxes, are really useful when  comparing multiple maps (particularly multiple aligned maps with a single atomic model), and I really miss this functionality in ChimeraX... would it be possible to add it to the (diminishing!) list of features to port over?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Oli
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS My mind was blown yesterday when I found out that ChimeraX has (universal?) undo/redo bound to hotkeys! Would it be possible to add the option of user defined hotkeys...? E.g. for invoking a custom function, style, lighting etc?
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